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Desperate WTB 1969 PA28-180 spinner

jhon_pastx

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I have been grounded for 4 long months since my spinner cracked, my baby have not flown for way to long and i don't want to buy a brand new CTB for two grand. i just can't afford it right now, plus is almost 10% the value of the plane...
please if some one has anything like that laying around that would meant the world to me, it has been a nightmare to find this spinner, from getting the right part number to a very rude email from Mcauley.
the original part number is: 65805-00
the "new" piper pn: 65805-000
the last piper pn: 65805-200
PMA pn: TCB65805-00

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Leigh

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I could be wrong but I always understood that it isn't an essential part to make the plane airworthy, so can't it be flown without it?
 

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It's a necessary piece of the plane to fly, as it aids in directing the flow of air to the intakes for engine air and cooling. Don't fly without it.
Did you check the salvage yards?
 

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If the spinner base is 14-1/8" diameter and the spinner is fiberglass, then the spinner shell and front bulkhead for a 150C and 160C will also fit. The rear bulkhead for the 150C and 160C will not (though they would if the prop bolt holes were enlarged). Note that the 150C and 160C use a prop spacer that is eliminated in the 180.

If I remember correctly, the old AD that grounded the 150s, 160s, and 180s for a cracked spinner was modified after a few months to allow flight with spinner removed as long as the rear bulkhead remained mounted. Check the latest AD Revision.
 
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N9166J is a PA28-180 having serial number: 28-3226 - Yes, it can be flown with the spinner dome removed, or with the dome and the backplate removed. Take the dome off and go fly!

This is straight from the FAA TCDS 2A13 for Piper PA28

NOTE 11 The Models PA-28-140, PA-28-150, PA-28-151, PA-28-160, PA-28-180; S/N 28-03, 28-1 through 28-5859,
and 28-7105001 through 28-7205318; PA-28R-180 and PA-28R-200 may be operated with the spinner dome
removed, or with the spinner dome and rear bulkhead removed.

The PA-28-151, S/N 28-7415001 through
28-7715314, may be operated with the spinner dome removed, or with the spinner dome and front and rear
bulkheads removed. The PA-28-180, S/N 28-7305001 through 28-7505260, and the PA-28-181; S/N 28-
7690001 through 28-8690062, and 2890001 through 2890205, may be operated with the spinner dome
removed. The PA-28R-201; S/N 28R-7737002 through 28R-7837317, 2837001 through 2837061, and
2844001 and up, may be operated with the spinner dome removed. The PA-28R-201T; S/N 28R-7703001
through 28R-7803373, and 2803001 through 2803012, may be operated with the spinner dome removed. The
PA-28-161, S/N 28-7716001 through 28-8216300 may be operated with the spinner dome and front and rear
bulkheads removed. The PA-28-161; S/N 28-8316001 through 28-8616057, 2816001 through 2816119, and
PA-28-161 (Cadet), S/N 2841001 through 2841365, may be operated with the spinner dome removed, or with
the spinner dome and front and rear bulkheads removed. The PA-28-236; S/N 28-7911001 through
28-8611008, 2811001 through 2811050, and 2845001 and up, may be operated with the spinner dome
removed. The PA-28RT-201, S/N 28R-7918001 through 28R-8218026, may be operated with the spinner
dome removed. The PA-28RT-201T; S/N 28R-7931001 through 28R-8631005, and 2831001 through
2831013, may be operated with the spinner dome removed. The PA-28-201T, S/N 28-7921001 through 28-
7921095, may be operated with the spinner dome removed.
2A13 Page 42 of 44
NOTE 12 Maximum baggage may be increased to 200 lb. at (+117) by the installati
 

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28-3226 doesn't sound right for a 1969 D Model. In 1966, the serial numbers were already above 3500, and were stll C Models. Does N9166J have the offset radio hump in the glareshield? Or is the top of the glareshield flat?

The TCDS says what it says, but check the latest revision of the AD before flying with the bulkhead removed. The AD controls over the TCDS.
 
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JimC, I ran an N-Number search on N9166J as seen in the photo. It is definitely a 1966 Model by year of manufacture and its first Airworthiness Date 4/15/66. Yes, its serial number is 28-3226 also.

AD66-20-05 (Aug 27, 1966) Para (f) - For Model PA-28-180 airplanes, Serial Numbers 28-3200 through 28-3533, install spinner bulkhead assembly, P/N 65804-00, in accordance with Piper Service Kit No. 757- 046 or an FAA-approved equivalent. By Piper Parts Catalog figure 57-37 this is the front bulkhead - in front of the propeller.

The TCDS has a October 2016 revision date and it says you can remove the spinner entirely. By looking at the AD above I think I can safely say that the spinner can be removed despite the AD. It looks to me that the airplane was first delivered without the front spinner bulkhead and suffered cracks in the spinner dome. The AD added the front spinner bulkhead to Spinner PN: 63760-04 which applies to the PA28-180's in this serial number range only.

Normally you would be correct to say that an AD over-rules the TCDS, at least until the TCDS is revised to include the new information presented in the AD. Even the FAA has had ample time to do just that since 1966 - err, I take that back. Looking at my latest aircraft registration it sure took them a long time to process my application. LOL!

A closer look at the first photo posted shows that the spinner dome failed between the aft bulkhead and the front bulkhead. It would be interesting to know if this happened in flight due to cracking, a bird strike, or some other ground incident.
 

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Yeah the year had me confused too the D models in the 180s all have the piper 3rd window. Alot of stuff says 1968 is the first year but we had a 180d that was registered as 1967. I guess its kinda like a car comes out and in august or september.
 
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