• PiperForum.com is a vibrant community of Piper owners and pilots. Our over 1,500+ active members use Piper Forum to swap technical knowledge, plan meetups and sell planes/parts. We host technical knowledge of general aviation topics and specific topics on J3-Cubs, Cherokees, Comanches, Pacers and more. In addition to an instant community of pilots for you, PiperForum.com is a library of technical topics, airplane builds, images, technical manuals, technical documents and more.

    Access to PiperForum.com is subscription based. Subscriptions are only $49.99/year or $6.99/month to gain access to this great community and unmatched library of Piper knowledge.

    Click Here to Become a Subscribing Member and Access PiperForum.com in Full!

GPS Direct Routing for IFR Operations

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
Joined
Dec 8, 2012
Messages
699
Reaction score
201
I have been flying IFR for about 10 years to and from many states east of the Rockies. I often file for and get direct routing as I really have very little desire to get stacked up on airways with multiple other planes. Not to mention airways often can add time to flights.

Just a few days ago we returned from a two week vacation to see different cities and sites. Our flight plan over the two weeks took us to the following cities

  1. Start at Columbia, SC
  2. Richmond, Virginia
  3. Allentown, PA
  4. Manchester, NH
  5. Bar Harbor, Maine
  6. Manchester, NH
  7. Allentown, PA
  8. Richmond, Virginia
  9. End at Columbia, SC

For all of those flights I was able to get either director routing or when flying around DC throwing in a few airports as waypoints to avoid DC TFR and a few restricted areas. The only time I did not get as filed and given alternate routing to stack all planes on Airways was the flight between Allentown and Manchester and the return from Allentown to Richmond. In fact the trip from Manchester to Allentown was routed over Scranton which added 30 minutes to the flight.

When I ask controllers about this they indicated that they will never give a direct route and in fact anything near philly airspace is not allowed to go direct anyway. They also indicated they cannot allow any airport to be used as a fix unless you are landing there. On the flight from Richmond to Allendale (pic attached) I was allowed to file 2 airports as waypoints and I flew the entire route now problem. On the return I was denied what I filed and was given the Airway route (pic attached). They were not real busy so I ask about it and they stated no airport can be used as a waypoint. I did tell them I got that routing on the way into Allentown and they said that was normal but they are not allowed to give any direct routing or allow an airport as a waypoint on this side.

I just fine it odd that we have any area of the Country where controllers are told they cannot allow direct routing or for any Airport to be used as a flyover waypoint. I believe GPS direct routing is safer then putting all aircraft on an airway but I am sure there is a valid reason for not allowing direct routing when in this area.

Not really interested in the take that pilots should never question routing or a real IFR pilot can fly any airway. Sure I was able to program the airways and fly them, I just thought GPS direct was the future and safer than all airplanes on an airway. Would love to hear any insights others have.
 

Attachments

  • 13EAC7AA-BB6B-4DB4-A6EA-D04A2E3F4859.png
    13EAC7AA-BB6B-4DB4-A6EA-D04A2E3F4859.png
    1.3 MB · Views: 36
  • 5EE8C987-B46E-4655-8B3B-27827797DC6A.png
    5EE8C987-B46E-4655-8B3B-27827797DC6A.png
    1.3 MB · Views: 31

Latest posts

Back
Top