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Piper Cherokee 180 WAAS for sale!!!, Too good to be true

gusve

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I found this on Barnstormers but I find hard to believe the price and features in the plane at this price.

CHEROKEE WITH GLASS AND WAAS! • $24,888 • PRICED FOR FAST SALE • N40984, 1973 Cherokee 140 160hp STC, TTAF: 2800, 1980 SMOH, 78/78/74/69 1/16 annual, engine is strong! Exterior 6/10, Interior 8/10 (2013). Aspen PFD 1000, Garmin 430W, Garmin SL30, Century A/P, Garmin GTX327, PMA-8000SR audio panel w/ lifetime Sirius, aux jack and more! The engine has not been overhauled, and the plane has never been used at a flight school or for instruction, NDH, full logs, no squawks, no stories. Flies great at 135mph TAS and burns 8GPH and little oil. I've put 750 hours on the airframe since I bought it, and it flies almost every week. Moving up, time to sell! • Owner - located Alhambra, CA USA • Telephone: XXXXXXXXXX . • Posted April 20, 2016

It have pictures with the Aspen and 430W but Flightaware mentioned it's a 180. Even with a run out engine this will be a great investment or a total scam. Hope for the first alternative.​
 

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Engine is coming up on TBO, so that's going to set the buyer back a pretty penny. Also, interior and exterior are fair. It's also a 140. Price IMHO is a little high. But, that would be my opinion, others are allowed to disagree. :)
 

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Engine is coming up on TBO, so that's going to set the buyer back a pretty penny. Also, interior and exterior are fair. It's also a 140. Price IMHO is a little high. But, that would be my opinion, others are allowed to disagree. :)

Buy, rip out avionics, sell plane to scrap yard and walk with 10k in your pocket!

OH would be $12k. Not too bad. Buy it and fly till she dies. That engine would probably go to 3000smoh.
 

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Buy, rip out avionics, sell plane to scrap yard and walk with 10k in your pocket!



OH would be $12k. Not too bad. Buy it and fly till she dies. That engine would probably go to 3000smoh.

Agree 100% (with the 2nd scenario) Fly it and start doing oil analysis every oil change. IRAN and OH when needed. $12K can get you solid a field OH easily in our region.

This would really be a low risk purchase imho.

On a larger scale this is how I bought my Saratoga. Engine TBO but no indication of issues and flown regularly. Avionics / AP were good for long term for me. Bought the plane way under vref with basically no value for the engine. Just down the road from you btw Unit.
 

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Dang!.. that plane is parked one row over from mine!... and a very good price. Will be out there tomorrow morning and will take a closer look at it... I paid 23k for mine, and it has a lot less in the panel, does have a O-360 in mine that was the reason for getting it but this plane would be a great time builder, IFR learning platform.
 

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The ad clearly states it is a 140 with the 160hp STC, what's the confusion here?
Mark
 

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The confusion is that the add said it's a 140 with a 160 STC and flightaware have data as a 180. The tail number is also blocked by the oner. Was trying to see when was last time was flown.
 

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The confusion is that the add said it's a 140 with a 160 STC and flightaware have data as a 180. The tail number is also blocked by the oner. Was trying to see when was last time was flown.
Looking at Flightware here:
https://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N40984

It also indicates a 140. Blocked is no big deal, some people are very touchy about privacy. Flightaware only shows flights that used ATC services of some sort anyway, so many flights would be unrecorded. According to flightaward, my plane has only flown once in the last 4 months, which is not correct. I've only flown IFR once in the last 4 months.

If you are looking at the flight page, it reports my 1964 235 as a Dakota/Pathfinder, neither of which it is. That page uses the flight plan aircraft code, PA28 covers a lot of models (mine gets reported as a Dakota since I use PA28B - which covers the 235/Dakota/Pathfinder).
 

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I use Flightaware regurlarly and I know the FAA have a registry of owners. I am also aware they only track flights that uses ATC. Was just doing some preliminary searches and though the price, the block tail number( anybody can block their tail #, but why on a non-business plane?) just raised a red flag. The price of the 430 WAAS, Aspen, audio panel, Garmin GTX327, plus installation IS THE PRICE OF THE PLANE. Someone is getting a deal.
 

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